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in the latest job report and showing a dip in the unemployment. former chairman jack welch is skeptical. meaning that employers added a modest 114,000 jobs and the drop comes at a critical time for the president who is coming off a weak debate performance with romney. joining us is new york times best selling author out with the latest book. ann coulter. at this point in time the president said we will be at 5.6 and enjoying that part of the economy and a more comfortable position and now they are running with this new number. what is your response. >> it is noticeable that a lot of economist are saying this is not possible. you would need more than 114,000 jobbings. i don't think it matters except to broadcasting tv shows or writing for newspaper what number they throw up on the screen. people know they are out of work and in jobs and they are way overqualified for and working part-time. so many people are going out of business and under working now. 23 million unemployed difference does it make? >> the numbers simply write away the 211,000,000 people stopping to look for people. >> oh, yes. pe
.e.o. of general electric, jack welch, seemed to suggest that the job numbers were too good to be true. look at this tweet he sent out and i quote, "unbelievable jobs numbers. the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate? change the numbers." the labor secretary called the accusations ludicrous adding and i quote, "i'm insulting when i hear because we have a very professional civil service organization, these are hour best trained and most skilled individuals." jack welch will be the guest of neil cavuto on "your world" next hour. joining us is the author of "rebounders, how winners pivot from set back to success." good to see you. you don't think anyone is cooking the books? >>guest: i never would say this about jack welch, an accomplished business executive but the suggestion is silly. there are a lot of variation in the surveys. we heard about that a few moments ago. what is likely to happen in the next month or two, the numbers are too high or too low and the next set of numbers are revised. they start, the surveys, they come closer to together. there were oddities in the survey. but
in september, one business leader is not buying it. jack welch is here and only here. welcome, everyone, i am here no neil cavuto and this is "your world." the tweak that has everyone talking, jerk welch tweeting this moments after the release of the jobs report. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate? change the numbers. the labor secretary calling the charge "ludicrous." jack welch. >>guest: i have been called worse than that by some. look, i have no idea where this number came from but you look at it and we added 600,000 jobs in the government sector in august and september which is the largest number we have had since the study has been done, 600,000 jobs. in september, household employment added 780,000 jobs. that's the highest since 1983. i have been reviewing bigs all week, some dozen businesses. no one is stronger than they were in the third quarter than in the 2nd quarter. we have been told there are needed 150,000 to 200,000 to stay even. the last two months we have gone from 83 to 81, and now we are changing the household number assumptions. i don't know what the right n
cooked, were fixed. former ceo of g.e. >> jack welch. >> jack welch say they were fixed or something? >> he said definitely those guys from chicago they can't debate so they're cooking the books. >> bill: do you take that seriously? >> no. i do not take it seriously. i have to say jack welch gave us a good laugh because he he was serious. >> bill: welch believes these are bogus numbers? >> that's what he said. it's the kind of nonsense what's really book here. 50,000 they survey the establishment survey it's called services and government is about 150,000 there is a lot of volatility. people going around saying this hasn't happened in 30 years. >> bill: in your opinion though, there are more jobs being added pushed from full time into part time. they are younger, less educated. unskilled. lower paying. >> if you are working part time you come off the unemployment rolls, that goes into the unemployment rate. that's a legitimate thing to talk about this is important. 14.7% unemployment when you include the marginally attached to the workforce. that is precisely the same number as the p
a number that comes out 1/10th below when the president took office. >> sean: jack welch is not the only one tawing of this timely development. listen to what business insider said on fox business new york this morning. >> i feel like i am watching a movie, a suspense movie. because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate. and somebody needs to dig real deep into this. how in the world, miraculously, we have the best flz 30 years, right before the election? somebody needs to do an investigation, like they are doing an investigation in libbia. they need to investigate the numbers because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate? >> the same administration not telling the truth about benghazi and libya and the death of four americans. there are very important questions that need to be asked of the obama administration. when you look at the hardidate athere is no way to explain how the rate decreased from 8.1% to 7.8%. as the former director of the nonpartisan cbo put it, it is simply implausible. a few things to keep in mind. the real unemployment rate remain
that are crying foul. chief is the former g.e. ceo jack welch. unbelievable job numbers. they can't debate so they change the numbers. he appeared earlier today on "your world." >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist predicted roughly 90,000 to 120,000. this economy doesn't feel like the employment improved this level. it is just -- maybe it's a coincidence that the month before the election, we have a number that comes out 1/10th below when the president took office. >> sean: jack welch is not the only one tawing of this timely development. listen to what business insider said on fox business new york this morning. >> i feel like i am watching a movie, a suspense movie. because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate. and somebody needs to dig real deep into this. how in the world, miraculously, we have the best flz 30 years, right before the election? somebody needs to do an investigation, like they are doing an investigation in libbia. they need to investigate the numbers because there is no way in the world t
positive part of the jobs report was the tweet by jack welch this morning. he is claiming that the chicago gang had basically -- cooked the books with the job numbers. i don't think that's the case. but i thought it was surprising that jack welch. think before you tweet. >> greta: yes, indeet deed. he is getting a lot of heat for that. >> i think it's a mixed message. the unemployment number is driven by the household survey, which is very volatile. september typically scr is the most volatile month. what i look at is the establishment survey, which is important because that is done with actual business scpoarns they are surveyed on a regular basis in terms of jobs they are creating. and the 114,000 jobs that were created this last month is very anemic, barely enough to keep up with population growth. so you couple the anemic job growth and the reset from gdp and revisited it to 1.2% growth last quarter. the fed is printing mon weqe3 and europe is imploding right now. we are looking at at an environment with a total void of leader help in washington. we are still in rough waters right now.
on twitter from former head of ge, jack welch. >> welch is one of america's most rebe inspected former ceo's. so when he tweets, people tend to listen. within minutes of the jobs report he tweeted quote, unbelievable jobs numbers. this chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers and facing a torrent of criticism for that. welch stopped by his tweet and those numbers. >> this whole number is made up of a whole mess of an assumptions who is participating and who is not working and who is trying to work, but dropped out. all of these things, it just raises the question, oh, i think there ought to be a good discussion about how this number is calculated. >> and most analysts aren't dismissing his crimsism as utterly without evidence and at the same time pointing out that the jobs numbers reflect an obama policy that has the economy stuck in neutral. >> they had full charge of the first two years and the policies that this president put into place actually made it worse, including the fact that obamacare is actually, you ask small employers, it's causing them not to hire becau
. doug we talked about a tweet from jack welch. did that ignite the controversy? >>reporter: the recovery surrounding friday's release of the unemployment numbers continues to swirl after jack welch, the respected former c.e.o. of g.e. treated "unbelievable jobs numbers. the chicago guys will do anything. can't debate? change numbers." facing criticism if the tweet he stuck by the criticism of the numbers. >> this number is made up of a whole mess of assumptions: who is participating, who is not working, who is trying for work, who has dropped out. it just begs the question. i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >>reporter: most analysts and the obama campaign are dismanage the criticisms as "without evidence." >> we wonder why institutions in this country are, the perception of institutions are failing, because people go on tv and make sufficient h stuff -- make stuff up. >> they had full charge of the first two years and the policies this president put into place actually made it worse, including the fact that obamacare is tale, if you ask employers,
you do not want to do is pull a jack welch. he decided that this was a conspiracy of the chicago political thugs that run the country. megyn: unbelievable jobs numbers, these chicago guys will do anything. by the way, we have jack welch to explain that later on. :lou: that's exactly what you don't want to do. these numbers over the course of time, you should always be skeptical of those numbers. we should always be skeptical of anything government does. economic reporting is an inexact art and not always in science be one can i just ask your question? :lou: yes. megyn: unemployment is still very high. how are the american people doing? :lou: a sophisticated number, if you will, buried within the labor of statistics is the broadest measure of unemployment that is in the workforce, discouraged workers. that remains where it was last month, 14.9%. it is a sign that we are absolutely stuck where we have been. and that is a sincere shame. that means 23 million people remain in great pain and they are suffering as a result of an economy that is adamant in not knowing. megyn: some peopl
on and on and let me just tell you jack welch comes out today and twittering, these are bogus numbers, made up numbers. this is just so political. >> okay. >> and then, more evidence that people don't want to believe reality and by the way, let me just tell you something. >> where-- >> juan-- hold on. >> the economy has been going on and on. and added jobs now for 30 straight months that's a trajectory. >> juan, is there any question in your mind that the department of labor, the national labor relations board partisan and ideological-- >> partisan-- >> no, they're not partisan and nobody who is in the business has ever said these are partisan people. these numbers would be coming out, let me ask you that, if it was so political why did these conspiracy-minded people wait till now, better if they did it several months ago. >> if the unemployment number is so important to jobs, to various campaigns, isn't it smart to have obama donors in as economists in the department of labor statistics? >> and let me tell you, there's no law against giving money. these are not major-- you're making it out li
and former ceo jack welch says these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers. >> and who is participating, who's not working and who's tried to work, but dropped out. all of these things. it just raises the question, and i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >> labor secretary hilda so least angrily denied the unemployment figure was fudged calling the allegation offensive and republican challenger mitt romney said of the jobs number, this is not what a real recovery looks like. and romney was also campaigning in virginia, running mate paul ryan said of the number of jobs created said we shouldn't have to settle for this new normal. reprizing one of the convention themes that americans deserve better than mr. obama has delivered. critics seized on another line in mr. obama's virginia speech in which he denied believing in an entitlement society which he doesn't believe people are entitled to succeed. aides suggest the opposite. >> we don't believe that anybody is ensilenttitled to sus in this country. we believe in opportun
with the same message vote early. harris? >> harris: well, wendell, i know earlier former g.e. chairman jack welch was accusing the administration of cooking the books. he says he has no evidence of that but here is what he told fox news channel earlier. >> look, i don't know what the right number is, but i will tell you these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> harris: that's what he had to say. what about the white house? what's the response? >> the white house has no input in the jobless numbers. in fact, they didn't get the figures early. the labor department people who conduct the surveys are professionals, not political appointees. secretary says she is offended that people would suggest her department would fudge the figures. >> you know, i'm insulted when i hear that because we have a very professional, civil service organization where you have top, stop economists that work at the bls. they have been doing these calculations. >> she says it really shouldn't be surprising that after strong upward revisions of the job creation in july and
numbers so wrong. jack welch went further obviously the former ceo of g.e. and he said unbelievable jobs numbers. the these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers. set person who suggested something fishy was going on. >> and of course our own lou dobbs has said no the bureau of labor statistics is insulated entity and peter morris is i on our show a short time ago said no, this isn't the case that they would never cook the books for a white house. that's not something they would do. they are economists and statisticians and there might be anomaly in the numbers. here was jack welch yesterday talking to cavuto and he said something smells funny here, listen. >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist this morning predicted roughly 90 to 120,000 and 8.2 unemployment came out very favorably just one tenth of a point below when the president took office. >> well, it's funny when people manipulate numbers back and forth on both sides. i always think about the 23 million people who don't have a job an
ceo of g.e. -- >> jack welch! he said, the guys from chicago can't debate so they are cooking the books. >> do you take that seriously? >> no. but he gave us a good laugh because apparently, he was serious. >> he believes -- >> i think -- >> he believes that they are bogus numbers. >> it's when he said. it's the kind of nonsense eye mean, the last thing -- anyone should be looking at in these numbers is somebody cooking the books. what is really at work here, there are two survey, one of 50,000, they survey the businesses and they survey the households. the establishment survey as it's called of businesses and government is about 150,000. and the survey of households is about 50,000. so there is a lots of volatility. there are people saying, this hasn't happened in 30 years -- nonsense. e >> in your opinion, there are more jobs being added. but most of these jobs are part-time jobs itch they are part-timions, people who have been pushed from full time into part time. they're younger, less educated and unskilled so they for lower paying. >> so if you are working part time and
that there is further proof that the economy continues to heal. others not so sure. jack welch tweeted this moments ago. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers end quote. martha: hilda so liz says that that notion is lewd today rust. joined by chris wallace anchor of fox news sunday . good morning, chris. >> good to be with you. martha: what do you make about the backlash for this 7.8 number? >> it's understandable, because it's good news for president obama at a time when he very much needed it. the fact is that he had a bad debate, that his campaign was raoeulgs a reeling, is an overstatement but hit a serious pothole. and the talking point, which is that the unemployment rate under this president has been over 8% for 48 months, they can't say that any more. and obviously some romney supporters aren't happy about that. martha: whenever you look at the economic numbers i always wonder. obviously as you point out the president's detractors will try to mine mice the number and the president will build it up. it's down to everyone's individual econo
house press secretary robert gibbs today also touched on the jack welch tweet. >> you wonder why institutions in this country are the perception of institutions in the country are failing because people go on tv and make stuff up. ask for the evidence and he said he had none. >> we continue to make progress. 31 consecutive months of private sector job growth. certainly we are not where we want to be. >> many analysts who combed through the unemployment data released attribute the decline to a big increase in part-time work. people looking for full-time jobs unable to find them and they are settling for part-time jobs. there were some 582,000 new part-time jobs created last month. the bureau of labor statistics categorizes the number as "part time for economic reasons." not exactly a vote of confidence in the state of the economy, shannon. >> shannon: all right, doug. a lot more on the numbers. we will break them down later with ben stein, well known economist and author and humorist as well. we might need a little bit of that. thank you, doug. is the lower unemployment number goi
and significant decrease in the unemployment rate. jack welch, he went to as far to suggest that the numbers may be manipulated by the obama administration. do you think that the numbers add up? >> i think the suggestion that the numbers was cooked is relatively ridiculous. that being said. economists at the labor department will admit freely that there is a lot of margin of error in these numbers. a month after each job report these numbers are revised upward or downward. the question of the number came out of the household survey, 800,000 plus number, there is a lot of margin for error, possibly as much as 400,000. that is admitted by folks within the labor department, as well. i think you can't get too hung up on the overall numbers because typically these are revised upward or downward. that tends to happen a month later when we stop paying attention. >> heather: what will the numbers do in terms of swaying voters' opinions, specifically undecided voter? do you expect to see a change in the polls as a result of this? >> it's a tough question. i generally think the jobs reports do not move as
of the debate. >> peter: and interesting 7.8% number, economists and jack welch, where did this come from, the raw numbers put out and a disconnect. >> clayton: we have to look the at revised numbers a few months later and maybe find out in december what the true number was or were in september. but we have new numbers out of ohio. the all important battle ground state of ohio where president obama has been leading significantly there. in recent polls, well not significantly, but 5 or 4 points accord to go what karl rove was talking about, 49-50%. and looking at virginia, and there mitt romney has pulled ahead of president obama 49-48% within the mar begin of error, but definitely experiencing a debate bounce. and speaking of which, let's talk about the money they have been able to raise because this plays into how people are feeling after the debate as well. in just the 48 hours since the debate, mitt romney has been able to raise 12 million dollars online and just staggering numbers. >> peter: at the same time, the president announced that they raised 181 million dollars in september, a
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